Confuting Confusion

Case A1AF6576-756C-4894-9F36-AC5A75157B14
Sponsor: Robert Thibadeau

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    Accusation
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    Argument

  • Verdicts

    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    I believe that all the lies of omission listed as red sentences are lies.

    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    The Medium article's Mendaciology analysis identifies several 'red sentences' under "Actions - Red Lies of Omission" across three narratives. These represent lies of omission because they highlight actions and facts allegedly omitted from the original narrative being analyzed. These omissions distort the truth presented.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
    Supporting Text:
    I'm gonna wait for Bob to give a bit more context.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    The RED marks any statement that functions as a lie or untruth.

    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Partly. The argument makes a fair point that people can mislead others by leaving out important details, even if they are not directly lying.

    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
    Supporting Text:
    By definition a lie of omission is not the whole truth.

    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Based on the Mendaciology analysis, the narratives are not the whole truth because they rely on significant lies of omission. By leaving out the broader geopolitical context and the specific motivations behind the data presented, the narratives provide a narrow and distorted view of the facts. This selective storytelling prevents the audience from seeing the complete picture, effectively concealing the full truth through strategic gaps in the information provided.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    By definition a lie of omission is not the whole lie. The lie has to be explained by further explanation of what the truth is. So from either point of view the case is not the whole truth.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    I'll wait for more context from Bob.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    No. It mainly shows one side of the issue and depends a lot on the author’s interpretation of what counts as a “lie of omission.”

    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
    Supporting Text:
    The whole topic of the article is how people tell false narratives to cover the truth.

    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    The narratives fail the test of being nothing but the truth because they are constructed around "red sentences" that contain lies of omission. As detailed in the Mendaciology analysis, these statements intentionally exclude conflicting information and essential context to mislead the audience. Because the core of the presentation relies on these strategic omissions to create a false impression, the content cannot be considered nothing but the truth.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Not sure I get the point. People lie.

    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Probably not.

    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Not entirely. There are some reasonable observations in it, but also opinions and assumptions mixed in, so it should not be treated as absolute fact.

    Answer:
    The deceit is that the lie is manipulating.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    These lies of omission are all intentionally manipulating public knowledge.

    Answer:
    The deceit is that the lie is manipulating.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    These lies of omission are all intentionally manipulating public knowledge by hiding context.

    Answer:
    There is no deceit.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Im wure its the case that there are lies of omission in the narrative, However the case suggesting that lies of omission are somewhat different to other lies is not made.

    Answer:
    I'm unsure what he deceit is.
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Answer:
    The deceit is that the lie is manipulating.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    These lies of omission are all intentionally manipulating public knowledge.

    Answer:
    There is no deceit.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    The deceit is that the lie is manipulating.
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
    Supporting Text:
    Yes, all the actions that are true are intended to deceive by withholding the whole truth.

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    The strategic removal of conflicting data and context indicates a deliberate intent to shape a specific narrative.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Not sure I understand this. Specifically pretending to tell the truth but leaving out crucial information that would allow you to understand the true state of affairs is the genuine deceit.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    If this is about whether omission is an act of lying, than I agree

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Answer:
    The motivation is to make you like someone.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    The motivation is to make you think these narratives are the whole truth.

    Answer:
    To persuade by presenting a one-sided argument omitting inconvenient truths.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    The motivation is to persuade the audience by presenting a one-sided argument that appears factual while omitting inconvenient truths.

    Answer:
    The motivation is to convince you that the lie is factually true.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    That is, the construct that has the crucial information missing is said to be the whole truth.

    Answer:
    Sound like the motivation is convince the reader that the lies are true or partially true (false).
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Answer:
    To structure an argument in such a way that it seems true at surface level or so I think I’m not entirely sure
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    I'm not sure what the motivation is.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    The motivation is to make you like someone.
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Answer: Unacceptable
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
    Supporting Text:
    This is a great example of the unacceptable lying in the media with the background corruption evident but brought to naught by confuting the arguments.

    Answer: Unacceptable
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Manipulating information through significant omissions to mislead the public is generally considered a breach of social and ethical standards.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    It is not clear to me where the confuting arguments are being applied. The suggestion appears to be that explanations of the true state of affairs are confusing and the mind is'brought to naught' by them. Well this is called sophistry. Sophistry is designed to prove anything is true whether or not it is false. and vice versa.

    Answer: Unacceptable
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Answer: Unacceptable
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    It should be clear that omissions of the full picture to shape it how they wish it to be is indeed lies and unacceptable

    Answer: Unacceptable
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Unacceptable
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Answer:
    This is true, but manipulating.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    Full Disclosure needed
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    A "Full Disclosure" or "Contextual Analysis" label would improve acceptability by requiring the inclusion of the missing facts.

    Answer:
    confuting is itself a confusing word since it is not well known and the plaintiff is using it in the most confusing interpretation -
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    mind brought to nought suggests that the situation is so confusing that there is no perceivable route to finding the truth. Well this is an interesting idea but it requires such a lot of coordination between media outlets and spokespersons to so muddy the waters that no truth can be retrieved. This is distinct to the often true fact that an issue can have so many causes and effects that the truth is multifaceted where there is no pat summary and truthful exposition that is readily understood.

    Answer:
    This is true, but manipulating.
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Answer:
    This is true, but manipulating.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    This has been a bit confusing, looking forward to actually finding out more in the case

    Answer:
    This is true, but manipulating.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    This is true, but manipulating.
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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