Eidetiker

Case A2F43082-1215-4C84-BDAB-A49FBA62001D
Sponsor: Robert Thibadeau

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  • Verdicts

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Eidetikers, people with eidetic memory, are predicted by AI models based on Perceptron, Neural Network, Theory. LLMs predict that perfect memory is possible in any neural network system.

    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Both AI models (like LLMs) and human brains store memories by connecting massive webs of information together (like a giant digital web or puzzle). However, just because an AI can remember or process details really well doesn't prove that human photographic (eidetic) memory works the exact same way. Human brains use physical senses and biological wiring, which is totally different from how software runs on math and computer memory.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    The argument says that rarely is a person found with perfect memory, and goes on say perceptron theory predicts this. But then argues that perceptron theory does predict perfect memory. If perceptrons accurately reflected brains then presumably perfect memories would naturally exist among humans. In fact, Eidetic memory is somewhat of a myth. Brains go through a process of synaptic pruning as they age which converts the literal memories into faster acting conceptual entities. This alone suggests that the perceptron circuits are only analogous to some neuron behaviour but do not shed much light on consciousness for example, where there are many more physical processes going on in the brain than the mere adding or diminishing in synaptic action which is what the perceptron copies.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Will wait for Bob to explain this in more detail.

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Isn't the question really what role intuition or inference plays in cognition? An AI "brain" can look at objective data--even with perfect recollection--and will only see that data. A human brain can look at the same objective data and make spontaneous, subjective inferences. Can an AI "brain" do this spontaneously? I think not.

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Eidetikers, people with eidetic memory, are predicted by AI models based on Perceptron, Neural Network, Theory. LLMs predict that perfect memory is possible in any neural network system.

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    This is an amazing prediction.

    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Good memories are for specific cognitive realms. There is no such thing as a perfect memory for everything. I know someone who seems to have memorised the entire set of English test and county cricket statistics and could answer any question about them. He did however lose his job in insurance, so how useful was this feat? And does memorising require a different mental procedure than The so-called eidetic memory which just, supposedly, is two parameters, detail and persistence. There is also the problem of where say an autobiographical memory ends and another begins.. if the eidetic process was real there would be a continually unbroken continuum of events in memory and thus the question of how would access to any point in Time in this continuum be handled.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Not sure.

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    This is an amazing prediction.

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    This is an amazing prediction.

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: No
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Actually AI does not remember anything of events of the moment in the proposed eidetic process except deliberate short term contextual information related to the prompt. All its data is represented in vectors whose similarity provides the output. It’s memory banks have already been loaded by other processes unrelated to the experiences provoked by the prompt.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Bob this topic is way above my understanding.

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    There is no deceit.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    Deceit is not intended by the author.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    There is no deceit.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    There is no deceit.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    There is no deceit but for an incorrect extrapolation from perceptron to brain. My doubts about perceptron theory arise from a different model I put forward which behaves, if one is looking for an analogy, more like cells in dynamic and hierarchical spreadsheets.

    Answer:
    I am not sure if there is any deceit.
    Answer Confidence: 75 %
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    Answer:
    There is no deceit.
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Answer:
    There is no deceit.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    There is no deceit.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    There is no deceit.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    The truth is intended

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    The truth according to Grok?

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    the plaintiff is sincere.

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Whether this is true or a lie, it was intended.

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
    Supporting Text:
    The truth is intended.

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    The truth is intended

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    The truth is intended

    Answer: Yes
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Truth is intended

    Answer:
    The motivation is to be informative
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    The motivation is to be informative
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    To share the author's truths and get feedback.

    Answer:
    The motivation is to be informative
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    The motivation is to be informative
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    About perceptron theory.

    Answer:
    The motivation is to persuade us this is true.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    The motivation is to be informative
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Answer:
    The motivation is to be informative
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    The motivation is to be informative
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    The motivation is to be informative
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Acceptable
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Modern AI is humoid AI that passes the Turing Test. It predicts that sometimes a human brain can demonstrate the perfect memory that moderns LLMs demonstrate.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Acceptable
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Sometimes is the key word here. If perceptrons were strictly examples of how the brain neurons are wired then The sometimes would not be needed.

    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer: Don't Know
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    Answer: Acceptable
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Modern AI is humoid AI that passes the Turing Test. It predicts that sometimes a human brain can demonstrate the perfect memory that moderns LLMs demonstrate.

    Answer: Acceptable
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Modern AI is humoid AI that passes the Turing Test. It predicts that sometimes a human brain can demonstrate the perfect memory that moderns LLMs demonstrate.

    Answer: Acceptable
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    No label needed
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer:
    This is true, but misleading.
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
    Supporting Text:
    Does the idea of eidetic memories support perceptron theory or do the existence of perceptrons support Thé existence of eidetic memories. The case does not seem to decide this even though class specific memories may exist in eidetic recall for some lengths of time in Humans.

    Answer:
    Here is my theory.
    Answer Confidence: 65 %
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    No label needed
    Answer Confidence: 100 %
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    No label needed
    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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    Answer Confidence: 90 %
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